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(( I believe I might start my own Alliance, the alliance of freedom under the banner of Lucifer. Strange, considering that Lucifer is lord of hell eh?
But in a manner it is pretty correct, from what they say, god controls everything, correct? Then it means he's also the cause of all the greed, all the bad things happening in this world and whatnot. He controls lives through what is called fate if that is all real. Demons are then also nothing but what he would consider as his own toys.
True 'demons' then, like the angel cast away into hell whom is known as Satan, or Lucifer, those capable of resisting god's manipulation through 'fate' would then be able to liberate his brothers, sisters and humanity to go against the angels and god himself. Though, to defy fate is to try and defy god's will... And that in itself is a dangerous task.
Oh... I just love controversy. ))
But in a manner it is pretty correct, from what they say, god controls everything, correct? Then it means he's also the cause of all the greed, all the bad things happening in this world and whatnot. He controls lives through what is called fate if that is all real. Demons are then also nothing but what he would consider as his own toys.
True 'demons' then, like the angel cast away into hell whom is known as Satan, or Lucifer, those capable of resisting god's manipulation through 'fate' would then be able to liberate his brothers, sisters and humanity to go against the angels and god himself. Though, to defy fate is to try and defy god's will... And that in itself is a dangerous task.
Oh... I just love controversy. ))
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(( Nah. I get this out of what I hear from people, from every bit and pieces of information I gather...
More points of interest is, we are supposedly formed and shaped upon that of god himself, then that means we are all childrens of god right? Therefore, jesus christ is nothing more then our equal, for they say he is the son of god, well guess what bud, that ain't so special.
Moreso, the hierarchy in angels depicts the idealogy of The strong conquers the weak. It's a hierarchy that keeps things in order, but it also depicts a need for power to rule over others, with god at the top.
Apparently, from what I've learned, Lucifer was god's right hand man, though at the moment he wanted to be honored and praised like god, he was cast away. To me, that just seems selfish from a being that is supposed to be omnipotent and perfect...
Then there's the whole fate thing. If fate controls our every life and is made by god, does that mean our bad things also happen due to his every whims? Then with that, through fate he makes us blame the demons to make himself innocent and to strenghten the belief upon him...
I've spoken with a few Christian freaks, the type who's way too much into it... I just spoke about a bit of controversy, I get the finger pointed at my face, saying I'm a demon, and saying that I must repent and ask for forgiveness to go to heaven.
Even if I did that, I was explained I'd still go to hell simply because I'm demonic... But wait, isn't their god or the avatar of their god supposed to forgive everyone? Doesn't that mean I'm supposed to go to heaven? And with that in mind, that means you could kill a thousand people, cause genocide, rape everything in sight, say 'I'm sorry uncle jesus' and be admitted into heaven... wow, lax security for heaven, that I must say...
Plus, throughout history, it wasn't demons exactly who made the bad things, but rather the people whom summoned demons for their own doings. Often in stories, I see demons saying that they only gave what their summoners wanted deep in their hearts... Would that not mean that they had only mirrored the sinister heart of humanity?
Well that was fun, I'll shut up now. ))
More points of interest is, we are supposedly formed and shaped upon that of god himself, then that means we are all childrens of god right? Therefore, jesus christ is nothing more then our equal, for they say he is the son of god, well guess what bud, that ain't so special.
Moreso, the hierarchy in angels depicts the idealogy of The strong conquers the weak. It's a hierarchy that keeps things in order, but it also depicts a need for power to rule over others, with god at the top.
Apparently, from what I've learned, Lucifer was god's right hand man, though at the moment he wanted to be honored and praised like god, he was cast away. To me, that just seems selfish from a being that is supposed to be omnipotent and perfect...
Then there's the whole fate thing. If fate controls our every life and is made by god, does that mean our bad things also happen due to his every whims? Then with that, through fate he makes us blame the demons to make himself innocent and to strenghten the belief upon him...
I've spoken with a few Christian freaks, the type who's way too much into it... I just spoke about a bit of controversy, I get the finger pointed at my face, saying I'm a demon, and saying that I must repent and ask for forgiveness to go to heaven.
Even if I did that, I was explained I'd still go to hell simply because I'm demonic... But wait, isn't their god or the avatar of their god supposed to forgive everyone? Doesn't that mean I'm supposed to go to heaven? And with that in mind, that means you could kill a thousand people, cause genocide, rape everything in sight, say 'I'm sorry uncle jesus' and be admitted into heaven... wow, lax security for heaven, that I must say...
Plus, throughout history, it wasn't demons exactly who made the bad things, but rather the people whom summoned demons for their own doings. Often in stories, I see demons saying that they only gave what their summoners wanted deep in their hearts... Would that not mean that they had only mirrored the sinister heart of humanity?
Well that was fun, I'll shut up now. ))
This point of view is here through the many years I've had, listening to religion. Mostly people seem to have fun informing everyone else about christian religion. It's quite popular... in a negative way.
I have no problem with the true believers of Christianity, those who don't meddle with others and try to "show them the way". Those whom do not go "By the book" fanatically... These people I can enjoy, but those whom dare point a finger at those whom go against them, telling they are demons or that they will rot in hell least they pray for forgiveness is simply... irritating.
It's not a nice thing that my first post be bashing religion a bit... But it's how I feel today, and I have a tendency of speaking my mind out. So be careful of what I'll say next.
By the way, you should play the RPG game entitled Nocturne. It's an RPG game that's rather controversial, it's very interesting and enlightening as well. For an RPG, it's also very difficult when set upon hard mode. It feels like a good old RP, where even if you are at level 99 with all your stats maxed out, you can still die in a random battle if you don't set yourself up properly or attack with the wrong things, even physical attacks... So yeah, this is for true gamers personally saying.
Well, sorry for the rambling and have a nice day.
Edited:: Oh yeah, I forgot. Yes, I know that apparently Jesus's mom was a 'Virgin'... Well, I personally believe that to be simple bullshit. She could have simply have acted as a virgin or seemed virgin like or maybe the guy who wrote about her in the bible had relations with her and meant that she was as tight as a virgin, or that her thoughts were as pure as a virgin, but there is NO way she's a virgin in the literal sense.
Sorry if I'm bashing a bit, but I've learned to... rather feel uncomfortable about the whole christian religion, met too many fanatics. Just glad I haven't seen any Jehova witnesses, though I wonder if I'd be able to convert them into Buddhism, Atheism or Sanatism, or whatever other ism that isn't about their own goddamned viral religion. ( Why viral? It spreads like a disease, no one wants it and it's hard to get rid of. )
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Jesus had to put up with it, he had to take it alot actually. Another thing I noticed was he liked to pick fights.. one thing I DO have to disagree with you is we are NOT equal with Christ in ONE reason.. we were not born of a virgin birth. That's about it really... I can't and won't try to pick another thing wrong with you because to be honest.. you are entitled to your opnions and you have the freedom to speak as you please.
Oh and about fate.. fate is something (These are my words and my opnions, please take no offense to this, it isn't directed towards you) that humans try to point the finger at because they cannot admit that it may very well be their own fault. Or the fault of those who came before so they try to blame something (really ANYTHING) else. I hate that.. it makes the human race seem so.. cowardly. Take responsibility for your actions, if you hate the way something is in the world try to fix it. Don't blame or point your fingers at anything.. that doesn't solve a damned thing.
*Edited, cuz I forgot something*
I have two things to say in closing.. as well as a few explanations.
1: I am a chrisitan, not a good one mind you.. I still can't get my act together. Even still.. if I ever start walking my path straight and narrow I won't forget that pointing the finger at anyone doesn't solve anything.
2: I don't have the right to condemn you or say a negative thing about you, mainly because I am no judge. I am no one to speak negative about your comments.. I DO have the right to state my own opnions expressing your comments. And I did.. I hope it did not offend you.