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Iwas saving 4 dragon items with cost alot and i got my first million coins and as of 6/29/10 im combat lvl 70 4 ppl who ply and are members go south of taverley and then go in the hole that u can climb down walk straight then go threw the door dont mind about the knights they ont hurt go to and door where bats r then make go out where therree is no door then the will be choas sruids if u see a black knight go the other way then kill and take herbs i got 200k worth of stuff in a run if your a noob dont go screw that dont become mem until like combat lvl 40 cause u cant do any mem stuff while ur a low lvled noob so thats how to make money first runescape jounal thingy this is 4 help so idk =]